survive scrutiny and that evaluations of him won't be based so much on his past as his present. that's how he responds to the challenges facing him as pope. >> brown: just very briefly, john, going back to what we saw today, you're talking about the substance going forward but what we saw today, the emphasis on humility, the less pomp, the way he was out in the square today, all that must have played awfully well there, being there for it, right? >> oh, absolutely. it played enormously well everywhere except with the vatican security personnel. that's the one constituency that hasn't succumbed to the charm of this new pope because they are scrambling to figure out how to keep up with the guy who quite clearly does not want to be shackled per protocol or be put inside a bubble and separated from people. and, frankly, i think there are real concerns going forward if he continues to comport himself in this fashion whether or not they'll be able to guarantee his security. >> brown: all right, john al men from rome, thanks as always. thanks so much.